Russian Mn91/30 762X54 Rifle $77 Or 5 Or More $70 Each + S/H To Your FFL @ Southern Ohio Gun

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New Shipment of these very affordable rifles have arrived. Powerful 7.62x54 caliber, milled receiver, 27 1/4” barrel, 48” overall length. Each comes with its own spike bayonet! Accessories include sling, oil bottle, and ammo pouch.

Your link wouldn't work for me. Here's one that did.
http://www.southernohiogun.com/russian-mn91-30-762x54-1.html

Fishyflush,
Go to a local shooting range and get a lesson. Do not buy a gun first. Ammo for this will cost $.30-.40/a shot minimum. But if you aren't familiar with guns don't get this gun. You should start with a better gun that probably won't jam and or malfunction, not one that definitely will. This type of weapon can be a bit more dangerous than a well made one and you should be very familiar with weapons before messing with this. IMHO

Good deal for a beater rifle though (if you know how to handle it's quirks.)
Thanks Butcherboy.

Fishy, handpick means the guy picking the rifle out of the crate (theoretically) examines five rifles, and selects the best one of the five for your order.

If you are new to guns, this particular rifle is not a good first choice as a shooter. It's less refined than more modern rifles (the bolt is hard to manipulate). It also kicks pretty hard during recoil, which, for most new shooters, will cause an involuntary flinch every time the trigger is pulled in anticipation of the kick. Makes it hard to shoot accurately. You'd be better off with a 22LR rifle, like the Marlin 795 that is on sale everywhere these days for $100 after rebate. Learn to shoot with that, then look at something like this.

Robc, I disagree that these are dangerous or unreliable for recreational shooting. These are stoutly built rifles. Ammo is about 20 cents a round these days.

Never heard of a 22 Kroger. Is that a firearm? Air rifle?

If you've shot the 10/22 a lot, you might be able to handle the Mosin Nagant. Just keep in mind that relative to your 10/22, it's a comparatively crude rifle. The metalwork, fit and finish will all seem rough by comparison. As I stated in a previous post, it's stout, but they kick hard and it will beat you up at the range or in the field, unless you are wearing a heavy coat or some type of recoil pad. Most people who don't shoot a lot will shoot this once, put it down and say "Thanks. That's enough."

The ammo is 7.62x54R. Here: 7.62x54R ammo

Also, worse comes to worse, you spend $77 and realize it's not the gun for you and never fire it again. Now you own a $77 genuine piece of history that might have been at the battle of Stalingrad. Not a bad deal IMHO.

So I just called this place up. They ONLY sell to wholesale. Meaning you HAVE TO BE A DEALER to purchase from them. No go for most out there. She was very nice though.

They will also sell to you if you have a Curio and Relic FFL license. If you are into older firearms, I highly suggest getting a C&R FFL. Most suppliers like Midway, Brownells
, Graff's, CDNN, etc.... give dealer discounts for having it too. The $30 cost is easily recouped.

My 2 cents:
1-Not a gun for a new guy.
2-Will never have any historical Value.
3-70.00 rifle with FFL transfer fee of 20-35.00

BRONC said: My 2 cents:
1-Not a gun for a new guy.
2-Will never have any historical Value.
3-70.00 rifle with FFL transfer fee of 20-35.00

1. Depends on the guy/gal, some handle recoil better than others, some just want it for the "6 ft long nazi killer/war pike" factor. I wouldn't give this to your 90 lbs girlfriend and expect her to enjoy shooting it.
2. Wrong, same thing was said about M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, K98s, etc, about how there's tons of them out there and no one collects them, today you couldn't touch one for less than $400. Once they run out, its out.
3. Some FFLs will transfer for free, some for ~$20-$25. Find one that charges by the form and not by the gun, I think you can put 4, maybe 5 on one form.

Shipping is probably around ~$15-20

Non-licensed individuals can not buy guns online or by mail order. The news media may try to make people think that any 7 year old can order one and have it delivered by the mailman, but it just isn't true. Mail order guns, and now online sales, to non-licensed individuals became illegal in 1968.

They sell these every other week for $99 at Big 5 sporting goods stores in California.

When I went to the outdoor range on Monday, I saw at least 3 different guys with these things... and that was just within the 6 to 8 benches that I could see from my bench (I didn't walk up and down the line).

I'm interested in owning one, but I also have self-control issues. I worry that I'll end up owning a dozen.

mjkane1 said: Robc2064 said: Fishyflush,
Go to a local shooting range and get a lesson. Do not buy a gun first. Ammo for this will cost $.30-.40/a shot minimum. But if you aren't familiar with guns don't get this gun. You should start with a better gun that probably won't jam and or malfunction, not one that definitely will. This type of weapon can be a bit more dangerous than a well made one and you should be very familiar with weapons before messing with this. IMHO

Good deal for a beater rifle though (if you know how to handle it's quirks.)
Thanks Butcherboy.

No offense, but spoken like someone who has no idea what he is talking about. The gun is one of the most solid built in the 20th century, made to take a major beating. I have one of these (1932 Tula Made Hex) and have never had it jam on me once after about 400+ rounds. This rifle is still used in some form or another by about 60% of militaries in the world. True, it's always a good idea to take a lesson first, and true, the 7.62 X54R cartridge is huge compared to something like a .22- It does kick like a mule. But my wife who has NEVER FIRED A GUN IN HER LIFE went out with this and LOVED it. It is one of the most simple and sturdy rifle designs out there. Surplus ammmo can be had for $89 for a 440/rd spam can. Please no one dismiss it because its $70 price tag as "junk". It's only because the soviets produced 17+ million of them, and they have gotten recent shipments from the ukraine. But supply will eventually dry up. And I would pay the extra $10 for a hand pick. Just my $.02.

They may be well made solid built rifles but they're also 65 year old guns with an unknown history as far as maintenance and storage. For $70, you're not getting a pristine example. They'll typically be fairly beat up and often have significant bore wear and corrosion and I doubt that they've even been headspaced checked. That's all fine to someone familar with them and knows what to expect, but for most people who aren't into old military guns they probably are going to look like a piece of junk and some could in fact be dangerous.

I've heard people say that these guns are going to be valuable for the last 20 years. lol There's just too damn many of the things. Some best examples may be worth something at some point but it won't be most of the rest of the gazillion out there. You definitely shouldn't be buying one with any expectation of significant appreciation. Nobody really wants the beaters other than because they're cheap.

In for one (handpicked). I didn't read anything about having to ship to an FFA... all they asked for was a scanned copy of my DL and a signed ammunition waiver, both of which can be e-mailed or faxed. Probably because TN will let a toddler buy a hand grenade as long as someone signs a waiver somewhere. They sent a confirmation e-mail but they DO NOT GIVE A SHIPPING PRICE, even after the order is made. Seems a bit sketchy. I'll update when I find out what that is.

Netropy said: mjkane1 said: Robc2064 said: Fishyflush,
Go to a local shooting range and get a lesson. Do not buy a gun first. Ammo for this will cost $.30-.40/a shot minimum. But if you aren't familiar with guns don't get this gun. You should start with a better gun that probably won't jam and or malfunction, not one that definitely will. This type of weapon can be a bit more dangerous than a well made one and you should be very familiar with weapons before messing with this. IMHO

Good deal for a beater rifle though (if you know how to handle it's quirks.)
Thanks Butcherboy.

No offense, but spoken like someone who has no idea what he is talking about. The gun is one of the most solid built in the 20th century, made to take a major beating. I have one of these (1932 Tula Made Hex) and have never had it jam on me once after about 400+ rounds. This rifle is still used in some form or another by about 60% of militaries in the world. True, it's always a good idea to take a lesson first, and true, the 7.62 X54R cartridge is huge compared to something like a .22- It does kick like a mule. But my wife who has NEVER FIRED A GUN IN HER LIFE went out with this and LOVED it. It is one of the most simple and sturdy rifle designs out there. Surplus ammmo can be had for $89 for a 440/rd spam can. Please no one dismiss it because its $70 price tag as "junk". It's only because the soviets produced 17+ million of them, and they have gotten recent shipments from the ukraine. But supply will eventually dry up. And I would pay the extra $10 for a hand pick. Just my $.02.

They may be well made solid built rifles but they're also 65 year old guns with an unknown history as far as maintenance and storage. For $70, you're not getting a pristine example. They'll typically be fairly beat up and often have significant bore wear and corrosion and I doubt that they've even been headspaced checked. That's all fine to someone familar with them and knows what to expect, but for most people who aren't into old military guns they probably are going to look like a piece of junk and some could in fact be dangerous.

I've heard people say that these guns are going to be valuable for the last 20 years. lol There's just too damn many of the things. Some best examples may be worth something at some point but it won't be most of the rest of the gazillion out there. You definitely shouldn't be buying one with any expectation of significant appreciation. Nobody really wants the beaters other than because they're cheap.

Well, I would hope someone mature enough to be able to buy a rifle would realize that $70 is not going to buy you a brand new never used top of the line weapon. Most of the 91/30 MN's people are picking up recently are great shooters with good rifling. And yes, common sense would dictate that one should do a full dissassembly/cleaning on the rifle as well as checking headspace/firing pin protrusion before shooting it. There are about 1000 youtube videos on this gun and how to do everything I just mentioned yourself. If you can name a better buy for a good shooting rifle at $70 im all ears...

Netropy said: They may be well made solid built rifles but they're also 65 year old guns with an unknown history as far as maintenance and storage. For $70, you're not getting a pristine example. They'll typically be fairly beat up and often have significant bore wear and corrosion and I doubt that they've even been headspaced checked. That's all fine to someone familar with them and knows what to expect, but for most people who aren't into old military guns they probably are going to look like a piece of junk and some could in fact be dangerous.

The rifles being sold are typically arsenal refinished. Several decades ago, they were rebuilt from the receiver up, with whatever parts needed replacing, slathered in cosmoline, put in a crate and then warehoused. And they sat there until some westerner showed up with a letter of credit, or maybe even dollars, and some import/export paperwork. Now they're here. Thankfully.

Netropy said: I've heard people say that these guns are going to be valuable for the last 20 years. lol There's just too damn many of the things. Some best examples may be worth something at some point but it won't be most of the rest of the gazillion out there. You definitely shouldn't be buying one with any expectation of significant appreciation. Nobody really wants the beaters other than because they're cheap.

Don't count on that. 12 million M1 and M1 Carbines were built. Thirty years ago, they could be had for a song. Now they go for at least $500 to $600, and some go twice that. With a handpicked arsenal and production year, there might actually be some decent value in a MN rifle once the import supply dries up. It might be 50 years. However, it won't loose value, and it will still shoot pretty well along the way.

mjkane1 said: Well, I would hope someone mature enough to be able to buy a rifle would realize that $70 is not going to buy you a brand new never used top of the line weapon. Most of the 91/30 MN's people are picking up recently are great shooters with good rifling. And yes, common sense would dictate that one should do a full dissassembly/cleaning on the rifle as well as checking headspace/firing pin protrusion before shooting it. There are about 1000 youtube videos on this gun and how to do everything I just mentioned yourself. If you can name a better buy for a good shooting rifle at $70 im all ears...

Well, this isn't a gun site and here you're talking to people who are shooting Kroger 10/22s for cripes sake. lol

I didn't say that it wasn't a good deal or not to do it, just should make sure that people know what they're getting into especially buying over the net where you can't check out an individual gun. As a couple of others said, it's probably not the best idea for somebody who doesn't have much of a clue about guns and especially about buying old military surplus. A lot here probably aren't expecting to see a beat up old gun with gouges and cracks in the wood, likely some rust and pitting on it, that's packed with "some kinda greasy stuff" in the barrel. I'd guess that most looking at this post have no clue what headspace or firing pin protrusion is and how/why you'd check it. Not that they couldn't figure it out, but not necessarily a gun that you're just going to take out of the box and go shooting that afternoon.

Checking out the YouTube vids as you mentioned and searching around on the Net a little is a good idea before you jump on something like this just because it's cheap.

A great price and it may be around for a few years at this price, but it's not like they're making any more, so conclude from that what you want. If you like C&R guns, this one will be great for you, and it shoots great, but it's a stripped down, well-used military rifle, you're not going to be able to get a scope or better sights on it without machining. (Scoping this rifle makes a lot of sense given its range). I looked into these at one point, for a scoped long range target rifle, but after the mods and a new stock, I was up around $400, so why not just get a Savage that was made this decade?

For those in the Phoenix area, Big5 gets these from time to time, and Bear Arms in Scottsdale has about 10 of these in a trunk for $129. The Big5 prices have hovered around $100.

rbstern said: Fishy, handpick means the guy picking the rifle out of the crate (theoretically) examines five rifles, and selects the best one of the five for your order.

If you are new to guns, this particular rifle is not a good first choice as a shooter. It's less refined than more modern rifles (the bolt is hard to manipulate). It also kicks pretty hard during recoil, which, for most new shooters, will cause an involuntary flinch every time the trigger is pulled in anticipation of the kick. Makes it hard to shoot accurately. You'd be better off with a 22LR rifle, like the Marlin 795 that is on sale everywhere these days for $100 after rebate. Learn to shoot with that, then look at something like this.

Robc, I disagree that these are dangerous or unreliable for recreational shooting. These are stoutly built rifles. Ammo is about 20 cents a round these days.

Rbstern,
Actually you made my point above. I just did a crappy job trying earlier. Had to go to work. I only mean to say they aren't appropriate for an inexperienced shooter.

A normal person can buy from SOG, as long as you do it through an FFL. Their salespeople were a bit of a hassle but I finally got mine today. It's purdy. The dealer I had it shipped to was impressed with the condition as well... they had two Mosin's on the shelf for $140 each and neither looked as nice.