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Search App store for "Survival Mandarin" on Iphone or ???Ipad??? , its free till 9-3-2010

note: Ios 4.0 and up and this app is 400Mbs LOL good luck friends

note: I can not find it using a Ipad.


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Awesome! My 3-year old is just starting to take an immersive Mandarin course at school, and this will help me both help him, and keep up with him. Thanks so much OP! Passing this along to my wife and in-laws so they can get it too. I'd give you more green if I could!


Remember you will have to use iTunes or a wifi network to get this huge download.
Thanks OP


http://www.hwjyw.com/textbooks/downloads/zhongwen/

For anyone who wants to teach kids Chinese. Here you can download a set of textbooks and excercise books for free and leagally. This set of books was funded by Chinese government for oversea Chinese and they were edited by Jinan University. The good thing for this set is the excercise books. Your kids will have things to do every weekdays.


The last friendly gesture of the Chinese to join their side before they take over, why do you think it's called 'Survival Mandarin'? I suggest everyone get this


NB said: http://www.hwjyw.com/textbooks/downloads/zhongwen/

For anyone who wants to teach kids Chinese. Here you can download a set of textbooks and excercise books for free and leagally. This set of books was funded by Chinese government for oversea Chinese and they were edited by Jinan University. The good thing for this set is the excercise books. Your kids will have things to do every weekdays.


Excellent tip ! Thank you.


Does it work on ipod touch? i am thinking about buying an ipod touch instead of the iphone.


hey ufmale! whatever u do...wait till TOMORROW before buying the ipod touch..the new one comes out TOMORROW!


For long time or short time?


NB said: http://www.hwjyw.com/textbooks/downloads/zhongwen/

For anyone who wants to teach kids Chinese. Here you can download a set of textbooks and excercise books for free and leagally. This set of books was funded by Chinese government for oversea Chinese and they were edited by Jinan University. The good thing for this set is the excercise books. Your kids will have things to do every weekdays.

This is great! They are very nice materials for learning Simplifed Chinese. I prefer my kids to learn Traditional Chinese first, Does anyone know where can we download the learning materials?


Showing up as 1.99 for me? What am I missing?


所有的基地屬於我們


That's Survival Talking Mandarin for 1.99 Survival Mandarin shows up free.


The trend is simplified Chinese. The reasons are obvious:
1. More people are using th simplified Chinese. mainlander has 1.3 billion people, but the traditional Chinese is only used in Hong Kong and Taiwan.
2. Simplified Chinese becomes de facto standard due to the politicle influence of mainland china.
3. Easy to learn, especially for kids who is not in a Chinese community and only study writing out of school.
4. You can read traditional Chinese without big problem if you know simplified Chinese.

Just suggestions though, different people have different preference.


Thanks


Your kid should learn Simplied Chinese instead of Traditional Chinese. The difference between two is the writing method of the Chinese characters! Simplified Chinese characters have fewer strokes and are easier to write than Traditional Chinese. Simpied Chinese is used in Mainland China and traditional Chiense is used in Taiwan. You'll find more reference/study guide in Simplied Chinese form, and the majoirity Chinese proficiency test is also done in "simplied" form.


When Deborah Fallows went to live in China with her husband, she was armed with a few semesters of Mandarin lessons. But when she got to Shanghai, she found she couldn't recognize or speak a single word of what she'd been studying. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129552512


flyingfish2 said: Your kid should learn Simplied Chinese instead of Traditional Chinese. The difference between two is the writing method of the Chinese characters! Simplified Chinese characters have fewer strokes and are easier to write than Traditional Chinese. Simpied Chinese is used in Mainland China and traditional Chiense is used in Taiwan. You'll find more reference/study guide in Simplied Chinese form, and the majoirity Chinese proficiency test is also done in "simplied" form.

Don't want to start a Traditional/Simplified Chinese fight here. I am a big advocate of Traditional Chinese. Simplified Chinese take the heart out of many beautiful Chinese characters for the sake of simplification. Singapore uses Traditional Chinese also and many Japanese characters are based on Traditional Chinese. For any the parents who need traditional Chinese material, here is an excellent website.
http://www.945enet.com.tw/
Unfortunately, you do need to read traditional Chinese to browse the site.


simbawang said:
Simplified Chinese take the heart out of many beautiful Chinese characters for the sake of simplification.

Unfortunately, this is not true. You really need to study the history of Chinese characters before saying that. Many simplified Chinese characters have traditional origins. And the so-called traditional Chinese were actually enforced by Qing and Mingo governments due to political NOT cultural reasons.


Atarata said: simbawang said:
Simplified Chinese take the heart out of many beautiful Chinese characters for the sake of simplification.


Unfortunately, this is not true. You really need to study the history of Chinese characters before saying that. Many simplified Chinese characters have traditional origins. And the so-called traditional Chinese were actually enforced by Qing and Mingo governments due to political NOT cultural reasons.

It is true that most, if not all, simplified Chinese have traditional origins. What I am saying is that traditional Chinese characters are derived from specific forms and meanings which may be lost in simplified Chinese characters. This is way before Qing and Mingo. Here is a brief introduction on the different ways Traditional Chinese characters are derived (sorry, it is a blog in traditional Chinese).
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/rice-4213/article?mid=2447&prev=2492&...


Thanks


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requires 4.0 iphone OS. i am on 3G and 4.0 OS slows down the iphone to a halt


is this the real Traditional Chinese or the dumbed down Simplified Chinese?


NB said: http://www.hwjyw.com/textbooks/downloads/zhongwen/

For anyone who wants to teach kids Chinese. Here you can download a set of textbooks and excercise books for free and leagally. This set of books was funded by Chinese government for oversea Chinese and they were edited by Jinan University. The good thing for this set is the excercise books. Your kids will have things to do every weekdays.

Is there a english version of the site? I can't read chinese so can't tell what these links are.


Hello,

I have seen many iphone, even the chinese one, i think they are really nice one.

Thanks,
John Farris


Does it come with a free Green Dam app?


It is NOT an ipad application!


If you view the site with Google Toolbar on you can translate it to English with a button click


siyer68 said: NB said: http://www.hwjyw.com/textbooks/downloads/zhongwen/

For anyone who wants to teach kids Chinese. Here you can download a set of textbooks and excercise books for free and leagally. This set of books was funded by Chinese government for oversea Chinese and they were edited by Jinan University. The good thing for this set is the excercise books. Your kids will have things to do every weekdays.


Is there a english version of the site? I can't read chinese so can't tell what these links are.

You may try Google Translate

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http...


awesome, thanks OP, my brother lives in China and my sister in law is from Taiwan, maybe I can surprise them when they come over for Christmas


simbawang said:
It is true that most, if not all, simplified Chinese have traditional origins. What I am saying is that traditional Chinese characters are derived from specific forms and meanings which may be lost in simplified Chinese characters. This is way before Qing and Mingo. Here is a brief introduction on the different ways Traditional Chinese characters are derived (sorry, it is a blog in traditional Chinese).
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/rice-4213/article?mid=2447&prev=2492&...

The trend of simplifying Chinese characters started before Qing dynasty. And there was a very good reason behind that: to promote public education. However, this grass-root effort was somewhat broken in Qing and Mingo by the governments due to political reasons. The current Chinese characters used in mainland China was mainly developed and officially adopted by current Chinese government. As many pointed out, SOME characters might not be in their best transforms. Their traditional meanings might become obscured or even disappeared in their simplified version. I agree those simplified characters need to be carefully reviewed and improved to preserve their origins. But on the other side, simplifying Chinese, making it easy to learn, is undeniably the correct way to go to promote Chinese around the world.

If you want to learn Chinese, the first thing you want to ask is what you gonna do with it. If you learn it to communicate with majority of Chinese people, to do business and to make friend, or for whatever reason other than to become an expert of Chinese traditional literature. You should choose simplified Chinese. If your purpose is to study Chinese traditional culture. Then you are very welcomed to learn traditional Chinese.


taf said: When Deborah Fallows went to live in China with her husband, she was armed with a few semesters of Mandarin lessons. But when she got to Shanghai, she found she couldn't recognize or speak a single word of what she'd been studying. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129552512

'cause they are speaking shanghaiese. I know both simplified and traditional. Speaking of dialects, I can speak Cantonese (你坻好, Shanghaiese (侬好, Sichuanese (龟儿子好 and of course pretty decent PuTongHua (您好.


Atarata said: simbawang said:
Simplified Chinese take the heart out of many beautiful Chinese characters for the sake of simplification.


Unfortunately, this is not true. You really need to study the history of Chinese characters before saying that. Many simplified Chinese characters have traditional origins. And the so-called traditional Chinese were actually enforced by Qing and Mingo governments due to political NOT cultural reasons.

Agree, traditional chinese is more elegent and beautiful. However, simplified form is easy to learn. Thanks for Chairman Mao!


I have decided to tell my Kids to learn both Traditional and Simplified.


Thanks Op! This will be a great help in managing my sweatshop. 努力工作,以你的家人带来了荣誉!


Man this is a big file, jeez. Thanks OP.


Thanks OP! Great App!

Most of my friends that know how to write Simplified don't have a clue when they see Traditional Chinese.
Me and others that know how to write Traditional could make out most of Simplified characters.

Simplified is easier to learn. But it is like learning how to run before learning how to walk. We can see a simiar situation the texting is bringing to written English. Younger kids that have poor grammar or formal writing skill due to texting or chating online using Simplified English is still debatable. May be when Generation Z take charge, it will right to use "u" in formal writing? And "you" will be a thing of the passed? Who knows.

Not too much to write home about regarding the Qing dynasty... The last ruling dynasty of China. I wonder why...


I heard someone mentioned before that Traditional Chinese is actually easier for foreigners to learn because there are fewer ambiguities. Anyone else heard of that before?


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Deal is dead.

"Simplified" Chinese is a communist tool for exerting totalitarian control over language and thought. The idea is a direct copy of "Newspeak" from Orwell's 1984.




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