Beware counterfeit golf clubs

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I recently purchased a golf club from a website known as www.golfshoppingshop.com No where on their website do they mention that what you are buying is a clone, a look-a-like, etc. Fact it, everything they sell is cloned and most all of it comes from China. I got duped into buying what I thought was a Ping G-10 Hybrid only to discover it came through Customs via NYC from China. Of course no way will this company give me my money back. Shame on me. Just remember, if the price is too good to be true, it is probably a clone. Buyer beware (especially of the dreadful website I listed above.)Incidentally, yes, many components are manufactured in China and around the world. But from that point on the major club manufacturers then take these raw pieces and assemble them in the USA under the watchful eye of their own brand names to insure the highest quality. Lastly, If you buy a golf club (in my case it was supposedly a Ping club) and you stamp the name of the Ping manufacturing companies name all over that club, you are in fact breaking the law. This is referred to as a pirated club. It is not unusual for Customs to seize such clubs but normally only when they try to ship them into the USA in large quantities. It is these pirated look-a-likes that are against the law. To those who say a counterfeit club plays like a major manufactures club, well all I can say is that you must be such a high handicapper and strictly a weekend golfer that all you care about is cost. From a performance point of view, it has been thoroughly documented that the metal in these clubs is so inferior it is no longer debatable. My only point is that these clubs by law are suppose to be banned from entering the USA because of our patent laws that govern such things. Thanks. Good luck with your golfing no matter what clubs you use. I prefer to use legal clubs.



Did you purchase it with a credit card? If so, dispute the charge and return the cloned club.


If you paid with paypal you can do a fake item dispute

Otherwise do credit card chargeback

Often you get to keep the items for free since they font always ask you to return it


I am always suspicious when a website has no "About Us" section. That means you know zero about the company and they don't even bother telling about themselves.
There's no official mailing address either.

On the bright side of things, it's good that you're actually getting your clubs. Also, alot of golf equipment is made in China nowadays.


Lolita 18:55:25
welcome to our custom service!
Me 18:55:51
you sell fake shit, right
Lolita 18:55:56
To be frank,our clubs are not100% original brand products, because they are not assembled and processed by the original brand company.
But their quality and performance are as well as the original ones, costing much less. Our OEM supplier also provides the components and raw materials to the original company.


All you have to do is ask


File a claim with the credit card company (or Paypal); I would also contact Ping http://www.ping.com/about/contactus.aspx, as the web site claims they are an authorized distributor.


I bought a set of fake pings too. Fortunately, they are the best clubs I've ever owned. If a refund doesn't work out, you might as well give them a try. GL


Exactly, some of the fake clubs are great! If you got a good deal then why complain? There really isn't much to copying a club anyway.


Actually, these prices aren't very cheap.


Serves you right for thinking a new club will improve your game. Instead of wasting your money on fancy schmancy "new technology", you should focus on your improving your technique. Practice makes perfect, and all the new clubs in the world won't change that. Don't buy into all the brainwash/marketing.


I was at a flea market in an Asian country not too long ago. The guy selling clones said they made them for the American customers first, put them on a container ship and off they go to the USA. Then they made more on the side and sell them for personal profit. You are probably upset that they are clones. But they may be just as good as the real ones too.


I had a very similar issues with my tennis racket. Was on auction for very cheap price, and I couldn't believe it. The item was coming from Hong Kong. I didn't care. Once I got it, it wasn't authentic at all. The frame height to grip length were all a bit off, and as a semi-pro it's very sensitive. So make sure you get it from a legit store. I ended up machine cut the grip, but it doesn't feel natural when I strike balls.


ssstamper said: Lolita 18:55:25
welcome to our custom service!
Me 18:55:51
you sell fake shit, right
Lolita 18:55:56
To be frank,our clubs are not100% original brand products, because they are not assembled and processed by the original brand company.
But their quality and performance are as well as the original ones, costing much less. Our OEM supplier also provides the components and raw materials to the original company.

Lolita's a fast typer to get that out in 5 seconds. Or, perhaps this is such a common question, they have a quick-key for this reply.


There about page is a little misleading...
http://golfshoppingshop.com/article.php?id=33

It states that:
golfshoppingshop.com guarantees that our products will be of the highest quality available directly from original factory with serial numbers, made of high grade materials, and play with high performance. We work side by side with accredited and licensed OEM manufacturer to produce the high-performance golf heads & shafts and golf accessories. And it is important to us to present the best quality to our customers. Based on feedbacks from our buyers worldwide, we make every attempt to increase our customer satisfaction 100%. golfsetstore.com guarantees that our prices are the lowest you'll find anywhere online; you'll know you're receiving the best deals available on thousands of quality products.


December 15, 2009

Gary Bellchambers made millions selling fake golf clubs on eBayAdam Fresco, Crime Correspondent Within the expatriate community in Pattaya, Thailand, Gary Bellchambers was seen as a successful international businessman who lived in luxurious houses, belonged to all the best golf clubs and enjoyed the finer things in life.

Back at home in Rainham, Essex, he lived in an ex-council house and drove around in an old Ford Escort, in an effort to avoid the scrutiny of the authorities.

In reality he was the head of a global network of criminals who duped thousands of eBay customers into buying millions of pounds' of fake golf clubs in the largest fraud uncovered by the online auction site.

To those he recruited to work for him he was known as The Man.

Investigators believe that he made millions of pounds from the scam, which they are still trying to trace. So far they have found at least ten houses in Thailand that he rents out or sells, a part share in a £1.5 million yacht, a floating restaurant in Australia that he owns and shares in more than 20 British and international companies, including many blue chip companies.

Bellchambers, 46, was the head of the operation that sold golf clubs, as well as clothing, accessories and passes for an airline lounge, "on a scale that, it is believed, has never been seen before", Snaresbrook Crown Court in East London was told.

Investigators found nearly every top brand — including TaylorMade, Odyssey and Callaway — being copied. The clubs were made in several factories in China, at less than £3 each, and sold on eBay as the genuine article for up to £100.

Bellchambers recruited family and friends to help in the deception and authorities have found that he had people working for him all over the world.

Adam Davis, for the prosecution, said: "Over the course of about four years, between mid-2003 and early-2008, these defendants and their co-conspirators have been responsible for the sale and distribution of hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of pounds' worth of counterfeit goods both here in the UK and abroad — primarily through the well known auction website eBay.

"This is a conspiracy of a truly global nature. Conspirators are thought to have been based in the UK, Thailand, Australia, Germany, Singapore, USA, Hong Kong, China — and goods have been distributed from, or to, all those countries and more."

In the British Isles conspirators were found in Wales, the Republic of Ireland, Aberdeen, Dorset and Birmingham.

Bellchambers had people in charge of package and posting and others employed to answer complaints and send out refunds. He made sure that all the money was paid via his accounts in Thailand, so he could keep track of the millions coming in.

Whenever eBay received a complaint or became suspicious of his activities, fake invoices were produced by the account holders to allay their worries, or new accounts were opened.

Toperation, which authorities believe had been running for at least five years, came crashing down when a middle-aged woman wrote a letter of complaint about two golf clubs that she had bought. The letter slipped through the well-oiled system and went unanswered. She complained to Trading Standards officers and Operation Augusta began.

Officers uncovered complaints including golf balls bought for a tournament in Spain that exploded after being hit a few times and one customer discovering a tropical spider's nest in the cavity of a club.

Bellchambers, who has already admitted conspiring to sell or distribute golf clubs, clothing and accessories, bearing signs identical to, or likely to be mistaken for, registered trademarks, today saw several of his gang convicted.

Bill Adams, senior Trading Standards Officer for Havering, told The Times: “The key to his organisation was that he ran it as a legitimate business because the last thing he wanted was a complaint that would undermine the whole structure, but that it what happened.

“He had been living in Thailand since about 2000 and was living the high-life. He was very heavily involved in the ex-pat community and belonged to all the best golf clubs. We believe he has connections to hundreds of accounts that are selling these clubs.

“We think the money went to Thailand into various bank accounts. Millions have gone through his UK accounts and we are still investigating how much and where it has gone.

“What we have discovered is the tip of the iceberg, there could be hundreds more accounts around the world, scores of people working for him, that we will never know about.

“He is a cool and calculating figure who has shown no emotion from day one. People referred to him as The Man and he liked being the boss figure. There is an air of menace about him.”

Even though he will be in jail it is believed that Bellchambers could still be making money. Mr Adams added: “The golf clubs are still being sold and we can’t rule out money being filtered back to him somehow. It is too much of a money earner for it to die, its too big to stop.”

Roy Cottee, 65, and his wife Kay, 46, Bellchambers’s sister Sharon Williams, 48, and Helen Wilson, 29, were convicted of conspiracy to sell or distribute goods bearing signs likely to be mistaken for a registered trademark after an 11-week trial at Snaresbrook Crown Court.

Bellchambers, his British-based bookkeeper Keith Thomas, 49, and Chris Moughton, 56, described as a "prolific distributor of clubs", admitted their roles before the trial and will be sentenced on January 25 along with the Cottees, Williams and Wilson.

The jury was discharged from reaching a verdict against welder Mark Kent, 46, after deliberating for 22 hours yesterday. The Crown has a week to decide whether Kent should face a trial.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6956425.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2

1. INFORM THE WEBSITE OF YOUR INTENT TO SEND A LETTER OF COMPLAINT. YOU WILL GET A REFUND WITHIN 24 HRS.
2. in the future look at the "who is" for any site that's familar to ye....the site you bough has a scant who is with Registrant:
peng bruce and no other contact info.
3. AFTER YOU GET YOUR REFUND. SEND A LETTER OF COMPLAINT. IN CASE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO TO CONTACT.
SEE. http://www.ice.gov/iprcenter/ National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center


some good information about possible counterfeit clubs from mizuno.

mizuno usahttp://www.mizunousa.com/equipment.nsf/locator?openform&type=store&div=golf

looks like the site may not give a refund, so if you have yet to do so, I'd dispute the charge. looks like the person who runs the site is out of the reach of authorities.


Yet again proving that fleabay is nothing more than a black market for counterfeit goods. I just don't trust buying from there unless it's from a well known merchant. It's just gotten that bad.


Everything motorola is fake on eBay


Every USB and SD card on eBay is fake. There may be a few exception like things bundled with camera's and the like, but if they are sold individually... Fake! They are small drives that have phony firmware that makes them report to the OS that they are larger. Once you exceed their actual size limit, all your data gets corrupted.

Pretty much everything Sennheiser on eBay is also fake.

DVD box sets? Almost all of those are counterfeit.

Most NIB software sold on eBay is counterfeit.

eBay doesn't care that you are being ripped off. All they care about is their fees. I would really like to see some State, Federal, and Interpol crackdowns on eBay, the counterfeit goods being sold there, and the merchants peddling them. One big concerted world wide sting operation.


Same for Cisco Linksys hardware on eBay - same for most US sellers. Only way to know for sure is to check the MAC address. eBay, Cisco could care less.


Wineaux said: Every USB and SD card on eBay is fake. There may be a few exception like things bundled with camera's and the like, but if they are sold individually... Fake! They are small drives that have phony firmware that makes them report to the OS that they are larger. Once you exceed their actual size limit, all your data gets corrupted.

Pretty much everything Sennheiser on eBay is also fake.

DVD box sets? Almost all of those are counterfeit.

Most NIB software sold on eBay is counterfeit.

eBay doesn't care that you are being ripped off. All they care about is their fees. I would really like to see some State, Federal, and Interpol crackdowns on eBay, the counterfeit goods being sold there, and the merchants peddling them. One big concerted world wide sting operation.

Actually eBay sometimes acts like they care. My friend bought a 16G SD card from China via eBay that is shown as 8G inside with a 16G label. He complained. Between eBay and PayPal he got his money back and the seller was banned. I am sure that seller reappears under a different name. My guess is eBay, as you said, won't do anything unless another person complains again.




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